Woo, I sure started something there, didn't I? :-) I'm not used to that many comments (I could get used to it though - lol). I read through each and every one and absolutely love that you all are so actively engaged in politics. I don't agree with most of the opinions voiced, but that isn't the point. The important thing is that you have an opinion,and that is what makes a democracy strong and keeps it alive.
Sadly, a few decided to make some comments that go beyond voicing their opinion and got personal. I can understand that, it happens when one is so strongly emotionally involved. However I can't let it stand unanswered.
- Besides the fact that I grew up in the States and have a greencard, I as a citizen of this world take the right to watch what happens in the countries of this world, including the USofA. I stay informed by watching at least 3 different national and international newsshows (Heute-Journal, CNN & CNN Asia, Al Jazeera) on a daily basis in addition to reading political magazines such as newsweek and Spiegel(German). I look at all sides of a medallion before forming my opinion. I see it as my civic duty to be informed about what happens in the world around me. So just because I have a different opinion, I am neither stupid, nor uninformed. And yes, I am one of those people who butt in and give their two cents. Just ask Christian, it happens all the time :-)
- Don't have an opinion about other countries leaders? Why not? I do. I could fill pages about Sarkozy, Medvedev, or Mugabe to name a few. Don't like our chancellor, Angela Merkel? Well neithor do I. I didn't vote for her Conservative Party either. However I am proud that we have our first female chancellor (yep, I'm an old feminist) and I think she is doing a pretty good job, concidering that she is head of a grand coalition between Germany's two largest parties (conservatives and democrats).
- Homeschooling is illegal in Germany, so even though one may be against this law, it is understandable that the law is upheld. There are very few exceptions made and granted by the state. So if someone just decides to homeschool without informing the officials and getting a permit to do so, they are violating the law. Also it violates the child's right according to our laws. I believe a child's rights are just as important as anybody elses, actually maybe even more so, because children often can't defend themselves. What all this has to do with the outcome of the US elections is a mystery to me though.
- About being patriotic or not: I come from a military background. My dad served 20 years in the US army. Both my parents still work as civilians for the US army here in Germany. I grew up moving from one military school to the next. I support the troops, they are doing a very difficult job, and risking their lives on a daily basis. Yet that doesn't mean I think the war in Irak is just, nor was it justified to invade Irak against the will of the unitied nations. Does that make me unpatriotic? I think not.
Sorry for this long post, it just pisses me off when people get personal. Everyone, no matter their race, age, sex, sexual orientation, religious beliefs or lack thereof, has a right to their opinion. So please show some respect. Another thank you to all commentators that did just that. I found it very interesting to hear your voice.
Cheers, Angie aka IkeaGoddess
PS the freebie post will be up later :-)
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I'm sorry for you that people made personal attacks. You are entitled to your opinion as we all should be. And who doesn't hope for a better world!! The bottom line is: can we put aside our differences and work together for that better world. Hope you have a good day in spite of the negative comments.
im glad to be the first to tell you ...YOU GO GIRL!!!
I think that alot of people have forgotten how the Americans keep saying how they are the land of the free and the brave, if you dream it you can reach it ... etc ... I guess i did not read the small print where it gave teh exceptions!!! love ya
Lol!! What a storm of nonsense! I have lots of opinions on American politics but have been biting my tongue. I'm just hoping that our own Australian TV can get back to regular programming shortly!
I totally agree with what you said. I personally am sadened that a democrat is our new president...but if a republican had gotten into office...then a ton of democrats would have been mad too:) No one will always agree with everyone else. I dont like when it gets to a level where we need to attack on another. Nothing gets accomplished if we are all yelling over everyone else so that we can be heard. All we can do is live our lives the way we feel we should and chose not to partake in actions that we dont believe in. The most important thing is that our country and the whole world start to prosper again. All us women who have such different opinions should still be able to relate to one another on a woman, mother, sister, and daughter level. Plus we all have scrapbooking in common so why fight?:)
Cant wait to see the freebies today!:)
Melissa-AZ/USE
Angie, again, great post. I really was shocked by some of the things that were said too. The sad thing is that you probably know more about politics here than do most Americans, and everyone around the world has a very vested interest in what happens here, as we seem to go around the world and do whatever we want. I for one am sick of the name calling, and would just like Americans to work towards solving some of the very big issues that we face.
Thank you for giving your perspective, it is very appreciated.
Angie,
I agree wholeheartedly that you, as well as others around the world are entitled to their opinions. I appreciate your willingness to share your views with us. You are a generous woman to give of your time, and a dear blessing.
I'm not an America and I do have my opinion on the US election but it's not going to change anything here or in the world so I'll keep it to myself. I just had to say I think I learned more about you in these two entries than in one year of reading your blog. All greatly put BTW!
Angie, I very much appreciate your perspective and kind words, regardless of the negativity posted in your blog comments you held your ground and presented your opinions clearly without being judgemental. I feel that if we (Americans) were as educated as you are about current events around the world the world would be a better place.
As for everyone who commented with ANYTHING negative about ANY party/president/leader/country/policy/etc. you make me sad for the country in which I live. Regardless of our President I believe we should be able to treat each other with respect. Everyone can and should be heard, but the obligation ends there. Not everyone agrees and you can never get everyone to agree, no matter how strong your opinion. We should be embracing this new experience the opportunity to share our views instead of simply being mean to one another.
Angie, thank you so much for the freebies every day. We all owe you for all the time you put in to providing us scrapbookers with such a wonderful resource!
My brain hurts reading all the mix-mash of comments. I, too, have my opinions - and whether they are in agreement with others or not, the beauty of diversity needs to be respected. I am Canadian, and darn proud of it *grin*, and was watching INTENTLY on the election as it WILL have impact on my nation. Am I happy? Maybe, maybe not ... but I AM THRILLED that you do scrapbooking freebies *GRIN*!!
www.homemakingirl.blogspot.com
Stop by for a visit sometime *grin* ... my digipages are tagged on the right ...
~ tawn
Ummmm Wow! That's all I can say! The separation between church and state in the US is a tough one for some people to accept. Prop 8 was about the equal legal rights of all citizens, not about whether or not it is morally right according to Christianity. Fear, prejudice and intolerance sure can get people riled up. We do live in a bubble here in the US and don't know or see a lot about world politics in our media. I am impressed with your knowledge Angie! Have a great night!
I am a German living in the US. I applaud both of your posts and I totally agree with you. I could write a three page comment on Obama, the gay marriage proposal and religion ... but I am too tired. All I want to say is ... ITA agree with everything you said. You rock!
And thanks for the freebie list. I visit daily!
Jas
When I read your post yesterday and all the follow up comments, I was surprised by some of the personal attacks. I was also one of the people who was dissapointed by the presidential outcome, but I respect that there are many views and everyone is welcome to their voice. Now that the hoopla is past, I believe it is my duty as a citizen to stand behind our new president.
I want to say a big THANK YOU for all the time and energy you put into finding such great freebies for us!
((HUGS))
Crissie from Arizona
Well said, Angela. While it is true that everyone is allowed to state their opinion(s), personal attacks are completely different.
How about just hope for the best, see the bigger picture and scrap it with the freebies.
:p
I just want you to know that I'm grateful for your freebie list each day.
I am sorry if someone made it personal and I hope I didn't overstep by bounds. I am glad you stated your opinion, I didn't agree with it, but hey if we all agreed it would be pretty boring now wouldn't it? I enjoyed reading everyones comments ones like mine and ones not. Everyone is entitled to their own and that should be respected. Thank you for getting the ball rolling and allowing us to respond. To be honest I wasn't crazy about either of the choices we as americans were left with I just picked what I felt to be the lesser of two evils that was my duty and I did it. It is not who I picked but alot of people did and that is what it is all about right? All I can hope for is he does the right thing and Congress keeps him in check!
wow, ange, i'm sorry to hear that you received some "not-so-nice" comments. as you said it's a democracy and everyone has a right to their opinion. but there's no need to get personal in someone elses home. and this blog is your home! hopefully "the few" will rethink their behavior.
Hey... we are all entitled to our opinions. :-) It's 100% ok with me that you have your own! LOL! Thanks for the freebie lists that are always fabulous.
Wow! Sorry you had such a reaction to your blog yesterday. I am so in agreement with all you said in both posts. Not only did Prop 8 pass, the state of Arkansas passed a law disallowing SINGLE people (read gay) to adopt. It looks like we have one more equal rights hurdle to get over.
Thanks so much for the freebies everyday. I have been enjoying your site.
Angie, sorry that people have gone personal. I read your post yesterday and couldn't agree more.
I was also very disturbed by a lot of comments from yesterday.
No matter what your view, everyone should be treated with respect.
(And not hide behind anonymous)
Thanks for the freebie list!
I'm sorry to hear that people were rude with their comments. The same thing happened to Ali Edwards. I really don't understand why anyone needs to respond that way. You are certainly entitled to your opinion!
Thanks again for all the nice things you do for the digi community!
Wow!
I am sorry to say I didn't read all the comments from yesterday, but now I know that I will not.
I dont understand why people turn someone else's opinion into a personal crusade. I dont agree with many things, but I am not about to criticize other's beliefs. Time and my years on this earth have lead me to be more understanding and less critical -- as I have realized how truly unperfect I am, in conjunction with many mistakes I have made. As I age, I feel more and more strongly it is not my place to judge anyone because there is no way on earth I could ever understand walking in someone else's shoes.
That being said, I am glad that you voiced your opinion yesterday, and sad that you had to defend yourself. Our president elect may not have been my personal choice, but so what. My life goes on. It is a great thing that this country was able to make this leap and stride, and for that I am quite proud.
You bring smiles to so many faces around this world. Mine included.
Thank you for all you do
I'm not sure that I could name any presidents or chancellors of any other countries! You're very informed.
Open a door, and it's gets flooded! Wow. I couldn't get through all of the comments. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Personal attacks are petty and simply a way of covering up a lack of power. It's clear how this country is divided and the emotions run deep. The president of the US has significant power in this world - and absolutely the whole world should be watching.
I know I speak for all when I say I love your blog, read it everyday. I appreciate the time and dedication you have for searching and posting the freebies day after day after day.
There are other places to post political opinions and everyone can find somewhere online with communities that agree with them. I thought your comments were short and insightful, a simple comment on the state of the world and I appreciated getting a glimpse of the person behind the blog. Some saw an opportunity to rant about their personal convictions and even attempts at pushing their own agenda.
It is what it is, the election is over and we have a long road to hoe. I am optimistic about what the future holds and believe that the next president is stepping into a big pile of you know what. However, this country has spoken - and made a clear choice. That is what democracy is all about.
Thanks for all you do, keep the opinions and observations coming - it's your blog - if you don't like the comments - delete them!
I have decided after pondering all day.. I am not going to read any of the posts that people left on your last post.. I am disappointed. I hate when people are hateful. Thank you for everything Ikea.
Well done for voicing your opinion. I am an Aussie who happens to live in the US and am sometimes made to feel like I don't have a voice because I am not a citizen. My husband is American and both my children were born here.
I just think it's funny that the REpublican party is all about survival of the fittest, limit government involvmenet in your life - until it's your sexuality and what you do with your own body that comes into question.
I think it's important for people outside the states to have a say. How else will we have a true idea of how we are perceived in the world.
And by the way, many republicans are feeling the way I felt 4 years ago when Bush was reelected. It never feels good to lose but you do the best with what you have and you live our own life the best way you can - in unity with others and with hope.
I'm sorry too that people got personal. I'm glad you shared your opinions, had not know this side of you after coming here for over a year every day :) As someone who (i admit) is not that informed and is usually too accepting and not strongly opinionated, I still greatly appreciate those of you who do, and read with interest your strong feelings and opinions. But there must be respect for differences. Thank you for showing us the way it should be done, Angie.
I hope no one offended you too much. I'm a republican, voted for McCain. My concerns have to do with imigration & taxes. But I think Obama is a bright & charasmatic leader. Unlike other non-democrats, I hope he does well. He will be my president for the next 4 years. Its not productive to wish him ill. I want our country to thrive. I have a feeling we don't really hae the same political views but I respect your opinion. I hope others do too!
Best regards!
I don't normally read the comments, but your post today made me go back and see what was said. WOW!!! I was shocked at some of the things people will say. If some would really listen to what they are saying they would realize why people think conservative Christians are intolerant. But then the democrats started getting nasty. I just don't get it. Maybe people have always been like that and now more people can see (or read) it. I myself consider myself conservative Christian and voted for McCain. However, I also believe the whole process is broken and it doesn't matter who is in office - it will be a mess in the end and not because of the President, but everything that goes with it. By the way, yes, I have read my Bible from cover to cover. I also am from Illinois and told my husband 5 years ago when Obama was running for senator that he would be the first black president. People just seem to gravitate toward him - media the most.
Thank you Angie for all you efforts for the scrapbooking community. I'm too am sorry some people got ugly in response to your comment. As an American, while I was disappointed in the outcome of our election, I pray all Americans will support the decisions Obama makes in his term as Presidency. I feel many did not support Bush, and while you may disagree with your President, not supporting him and our troops by publicly denoucing his decisions underines all efforts. I am inspired though that citizens around the world follow our election and am encouraged that some, like you, see Obama as bringing a better future to everyone. I wish I saw it the same. Thank you for your efforts and your thoughts.
Glad to read about the perspectives of this amazing and smart woman on the other side of the world, share her concerns and point of views about politics. It's a refreshing thought.
Obama is already the president and we could only work together to rebuild America. Lets show our support for him. I'm just disheartened by some comments though... I'm happy that you think America would prosper again through Obama. This kind of support keeps my hopes alive.
Lets just scrap those elections cheers and even those blues away, alright?!
Thanks Angie, you rock my world!You are my daily dose of happiness... love you sweetie.
SoCal Jane
I personally enjoyed your post yesterday and found it refreshing to hear the opinion of someone from the outside looking in. Clearly a lot of other people here agreed with you as well, or we wouldn't have elected Obama.
AMEN! I don't understand why people have to get so personal about it, but your rebuttal was very articulate and respectful. Way to set the example!
Elections are a pain, only because they start way to early and last too long, well not the elections but the campaining. I did my duty and right, and voted. My canadate didn't win, but I wasn't as nearly upset about it my hubby is. I was hoping that once the elections were over that people could go back to the everyday life, but this time is so different. People are right, this was an world shaking elections, but we got who we got and it is time for everyone to settle in and get back to making sure they are taking care of their personal business.
This from one of those 'old folks' that still knows how to cook from scratch and make-do with what I have on hand. I see the world a little different from some, but life will go one no matter who gets elected. So to talk trash to someone about their opinion is just plain old wrong and I am so sorry you had to endure that from the same folks that visit your blog daily to get the freebies you find for us. Shame on them and more power to you for taking an intrest in your WOLRD.
I only read the first 25 comments from yesterday's post...now I won't read the rest! Thanks for your freebies, and for recognizing the importance of being aware and informed concerning world events. (The tough part is slogging through biased media hype to find "truth?") You're awesome!
I just wanted to say thank you for your comments. I too believe that people should be informed about as much of the world's politics as possible. We are now in a global economy and what other countries do affects us.
As a white, SAHM who goes to church every Sunday, believes very strongly in God and is active in chruch activites outside just the Sunday service, I have to say I voted for Obama (after a lot of research) and I'm totally against Prop 8 (again after research) although I don't live in California. I was frankly offended at every person who commented how God thinks homosexuality is wrong or that somehow the Republicans are more religious people. I wish people could have opinions without dragging what they believe God thinks into it if they don't like what other people believe.
Long time lurker here. I had to come out of hiding to say AWESOME POST! I am an American historian (by training and occupation) and I consider myself a political moderate. I am 33 years old and can not remember the last time I felt proud to be an American. It was before the G.W. Bush administration and before the Clinton administration. In recent years, however, it has gone beyond a matter of pride. I have actually felt shame in being American, and that has hurt me more than words can express. In regards to Obama, I feel that his election is not just a racial milestone. Historically, people around the world have chosen to immigrate to the United States because they believed it to be a country where miracles could happen, and where their families could prosper. In their own words, they felt that in America, "the streets are paved in gold and anyone can grow up to be president." Up until now, these were just ideals. This week showed that it is a FACT that ANYONE can grow up to be President of the United States of America. Can you feel the enormity of those words? I also feel that historians looking back on this election will see it as the first "Generation X" election, the first time Gen X voices have been heard over that of the Baby Boomers. Back to your blog, what pains me the most about the negative comments you have received is that those who are so rudely attacking you in an effort to defend their country are in fact ignoring the basic tenants upon which this country is based. You are entitled to your thoughts as much as they are entitled to theirs. And on the most basic level, you wrote your opinions on *your* blog, and they were simply guests. For a guest to attack a host's comments is horrifyingly rude. For everyone else out there, if you don't like this blog or what is written on it, then ***don't visit it.*** --back to lurking--
This is the lurking historian again. :)
Angie, I just wanted to tell you that I enjoyed reading your brief bio in this post. I have been wondering how you became so fluent in English. It all comes clear.
Thank you for all that you do!
ditto to Suzette!
Strong Christian woman here, who voted for Obama. I wasn't thrilled with my choices, but, Wow! what a historic time!
Proud once again to be an American.
Except for the embarassment that I feel regarding those other comments previously made about "others" commenting on "our American" issues. Wow, are we Americans really that self-centered?!?!
Thanks for the freebies!
Politics! Really gets people in a tizzy, doesn't it???
Oh Angie! Your post did not fall on deaf ears!
In our house and in most of our family the house is divided, one spouse votes one way and one the other :) Yet we still manage a marriage, happiness and love :)
To me the entire world seems SO big compared to our little corner, I do say I don't focus on the bigger picture of change when there are so many little things that need my voice-I am a huge advocate for children's rights :)
Thank you for sharing your views! They were really eye opening!
Oh, I have reread my comments of last night, and I feel that I need to be humbling myself quickly and promptly. First I want to apologize that some of my comment was hateful, and accusatory. Yesterday I was so happy that we elected Obama. I had seen him at a rally only Saturday. I was on the rail along with 40,000 that stood with me. Then I felt the country made the right choice electing him. The day started out great with a good friend calling me to congratulate me on the win. She voted McCain. The day quickly went downhill from there. I had a lady that I know tell me that Obama was the Anti-Christ and she really means that. I had one tell me that now that we voted that N***** in office that he would make white people slaves. I also had a couple that seen my Obama t-shirt on numerous times, say to me that they were appalled that I supported Obama and that I was just a N***** Lover. Then I got home and recieved a text that white people should report to the cotton fields at 6:00am the next morning. I lost it! I was in such shock and disgust in the ignorance and plain stupid I was surrounded with that I let that impatience, and angry slip right into my post. Please accept my apology. I'm better today. Although at that moment I felt that way, I should have made my points clearly and not hot-headed. It all could have been stated nicer. I hope that the digi community will understand, and Angie, thanks so much for all you do, and thanks for letting me blow steam. I think a lot of us needed to. I think you're great and love your opinions, don't stop sharing them. Patty
Wow, Sorry about the firestorm! No need for people to get personal on a SCRAPPING blog! We're supposed to be having fun! Appreciate all your freebies and hard work putting it all together for us! I would like to make one correction on something that I saw a number of times throughout the last few days. America is not a Democracy. It is a Republic as our Founding Fathers set it up. Most people don't know that any more! Google it and see what the difference is. And no, I am not a Republican OR a Democrat. Thanks.
I want to offer a heartfelt “Thank You” for sharing your thoughts and ideas with us these last few days. It was a comfort for me to “hear” my thoughts echoed so articulately in another’s words and it was a joy to get to “know” you a bit better.
Our world truly has become a global community, and as I sit here in America’s Heartland I am comforted to know that people around the world feel a vested interest in what is happening here. The struggles we are facing today will not be “fixed” by one election, but by working together, caring about each other and continuing to voice and act upon our ideals we can achieve change, here in America and throughout our world. Thank you for seeing the importance of that, and for not being afraid to have your voice heard.
I SO agree that we should keep our comments civil and not resort to personal attacks. I know my opinions and though they may differ from those of others, I don't feel that it is my place to try to belittle them or attack them.
I had a very difficult time deciding on who to vote for and in the end decided to follow my heart and stay conservative. Obama is a great speaker, but I just couldn't get over his associations-the people who influenced him. To me, it seemed like a major red flag. However, now that he has been elected I will do my best to support him and not cause anymore division among the people of my great country.
Now, back to the thing that brought all of us ladiez together...thanks for the freebies Ang!!
I read the comments and wow -- you really got slammed a few times. I think you're just fine in stating your views and opinions - that's part of what makes citizens of this country and of this world. God made us all different so we are all entitled to a different opinion. I admire you for sharing yours - and I hope you continue to do so.
I would like to also compliment the freebie lists, and also thank you for engaging in stimulating conversation. I’ll admit I was mildly annoyed at your views. But I take two things from your posting, the world is watching us, and Obama may be a force to be reckoned with. Personally, I’m scared out of my mind since we seem to have blindly elected him based on common misconceptions of our current government. But he will be our new president and I will support him just as I do Bush. I don’t want to become one of the haters. God bless America and the free world.
I voted for McCain and honestly, I really wanted Palin to win. However, I am an American and support our President regardless of whether or not I voted for him. I wish him all the best in his upcoming presidency.
I have to say many thanks to you for all you do for us in finding freebies. I also have to say that if all who supported Obama were level headed enough to engage in a thoughtful conversation like you and some others here, (unfortunately not all) I think this country and world would be a better place. I wish that everyone, no matter their side could just state their opinion without trying to slam the other side. Its neither helpful nor necessary and in the end, it makes them look petty, uninformed and ugly inside.
I praise you for taking the intelligent and high road. I think although we are brought together through scrapping, we are united through more than just that. You have proven we are emotionally invested in the current US political situation. Thanks for braving these very rough waters.
Thanks again for working hard too in finding great digi scrapping freebies!
with every sentence I read in your last posting, I felt more respect for you, I liked your posting very much. I did not no any background about you but liked your last posting that much too.
Now I like it even more, because you obviouly know more than lots of people, the european and states sites that makes it even more interessting to listen to you
A comment to Patasmomma: I am so sorry that all this hate came to you on one day! Some people here in the Netherlands are very anxious that some stupid person will step up and kill your just chosen president just for being black and charismatic (out of fear). I hope that he gets the chance to be your president for the next 4 years (and maybe even 4 more). Wishing you all the best and friendship from the Netherlands, Meta
by the way, I read the comments all yesterday and did not have the feeling, that those "out of control" tones were against you personally, never a moment
es una pena que tengas que escusarte y dar tanta información personal por culpa de gente estúpida que no sabe defender sus opiniones, sinó que ataca a los demás. no hace falta que demuestres tus conocimientos sobre polÃtica, todos tenemos nuestra propia opinion y no podemos atacar a los demás por no pensar como nosotros. creo que eres una gran persona. en españa decimos: a palabras necias oÃdos sordos.
un beso des de barcelona
latercerachica
Once again, I agree with your views! Thank you for telling us more about yourself. That was really interesting to learn more about our freebie goddess! ;)
This Canadian was a bit disgusted with a great deal of yesterdays posts! Also, very dissappointing to see adults post some of the things they did. Please let Obama make some progress there. Geeesh! It is more than evident after reading all of the comments he is very much needed.
So sorry if you felt attacked. Thank you for all the fab freebies.. as always! :)
it doesnt matter what someones ploitical view is, who they did or didnt support or what reasons they agree with, we all live in this world what one person does has the possibility to effect another and we should keep this in mind.
i am a defacto spouse been together 9 years, have 2 kids, a house, cars... my man is in the army even though we are not married i am recognised as his spouse unless there is a contention i will have to fight for my rights, why cant this be the choice for others(gay/lesbian) . i choose not to be married, they dont have a choice and that is the problem...CHOICE...
i loved reading the comments and your views angie, it is another tool in learning about this world.
an aussie
First of i would like to say thankyou for your freebies they are always fabulous!!! Secondly i know people will call me ignorant and stupid because i dont have any political views but i did want to say that to me the as an Indigenous Australian the election of a black man as the president of America is visible proof that the playing field might just be even now..
I am sorry that people got nasty Angie. That is why I try to keep my political beliefs and what not to myself. Believe me, my family knows but I don't post on the net. I feel alot of people are very opinionated and so am I. It could get bad. You are a good person Angie and don't let some people get ya down. I for one voted McCain. I am 100% anti Obama. I for one think we as a nation made a huge mistake BUT am 100% gonna accept Obama as our next president and move forward. As far as the Prop to accept same sex marriages. Totally against it but that is my religious belief and I will leave it at that. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE FREEBIES LIST ANG!! And your support. You are a doll!
I'm very sorry to hear that some comments got overly personal.
Although I don't agree with your opinions, I do respect that you as a human, have them. It's what sets us apart from each other.
I'm praying that Obama and the democratic congress do not put us into a deep depression as is predicted. If so, then the whole world will feel the pain.
I'm a very informed and educated American who did my homework thoroughly before voting. That is why I voted for McCain.
However, I hold no hard feelings for anyone who voted differently than I did. I just wish more voters would have based their votes on a candidates platform and moral values, instead of his "race."
Hey girl...don't let the negative posts get to you.
While I disagree with your politics on almost every point I know from personal experience that it doesn't matter and certainly doesn't need to be a point of contention.
While I am a fairly conservative Republican, I am married to a Democrat.
There have been many (civil) political arguments and debates in our home during our 10 year marriage.
I do not agree with my husbands politics but I do know that each of us listening to each other over the course of the years had brought our individual political views closer to the middle for us both of us - and in the end isn't that the most peaceful place to be? :)
If I can love an adore my sweet husband who has such different political views, surely I can respect those outside my home!
I love and adore you too Angie - thanks for all you do for us you sweet thing!!!brunde
I voted Obama, and I did my homework too. (As I did on McCain, Bush, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, etc.) I am thrilled to have him as President to our nation, and to have the kind of hope and passion he inspires. And frankly, the Bush administration had 8 years to makes things better. They didn't. And they got voted out. That's how the system works, folks.
I am also thrilled that people like you, from other countries, take an interest in our elections and our government. Personally I think if more American took their heads out of the sand and bothered to educate themselves about other countries and their governments, we'd all be a heck of a lot better off on this planet.
As for Prop 8 in California, it's insane. we need to just separate religious marriage from civil unions. Then hetero, gay, whatever, you could have a civil union sanctioned by the state, and if you want something that follows a specific moral code, you can choose to go to your religious leader. I still can't believe we have such discrimination against homosexual couples in this country. Ack.
Anyway, thanks for the freebie hunt, and for sharing your views!
Angie, I want to apologize for my post yesterday. I don't think I offended anyone (or at least didn't do so on purpose), but now feel bad for helping to fuel the fire. I'm sorry that you felt attacked and I'm sure you didn't like your blog to be used to attack others, either.
Thanks for your rebuttal today. I'm amazed at the variety of sources you read for current events. I think things would be a lot different if more people around the world tried to see all points of view. I'm also grateful to all of you Obama supporters who elected him (or would have if you could vote here) for his stands on the issues rather than race or because he was not Republican. I hope the next 4 years will bring about some good changes around the world.
I love your blog and appreciate all the time you put into making these awesome freebie lists for us. Thanks!
I just found you today, but I read your last post and this one. I am so glad that you stood up for your right to an opinion! I also think that it is awesome that, despite living in a different country, you care about our countries politics and recognize the impact that each country has on the world as a whole. I follow the leaders of other countries, as well. I may not do so as fervently as I do our own, but I do keep up with them and I do have opinions about them! It's part of being fully informed. I don't think I could have made a decision on who I want to lead this country if I didn't know who was leading the others...that doesn't even make sense! Thank you for standing up! And...I agree...the vote on Prop 8 is pure discrimination and I was appalled by it! It doesn't matter if anyone thinks it is right or wrong on a religious basis...the point is...everyone has the right to decide for themselves and rights shouldn't be removed from anyone!
Just wanted to comment on the "there is no homosexuality in nature among animals" comment. There most certainly IS homosexuality found in nature amongst animals. I had two female ducks that tried to mate regularly - exchanging roles as to who was the "male" on a regular basis. National Geographic has a great link about this very topic - homosexuality can be found amongst birds, mammals, fish, etc. Since no one taught them this behavior in a school, church or anywhere else, I'd have to say it's as "natural" as it can get.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html
And this is a comment about how the "blacks" elected Obama. This is mathematically impossible unless (the "unless" is later in my post)...
For this election in 2008, there are 169 million registered voters in the United States - 86 million democrat - 55 million republican - 28 million others registered.
Of the total registered, about 10% (about 17 million) have listed their race as "black", making the other 90% "something other than black".
SO, "unless" every black voter voted (they didn't), AND they ALL voted for Obama (they didn't), there was a VERY LARGE segment of the 90% who claim to be "something other than black", who:
a. Voted for Obama
b. Didn't vote
Either way, the 90% who claim to be "something other than black" elected Obama - either with their vote or with their apathy, and if with the later - shame on them.
And while I'm on a role, let's not forget who was President when *THE* terrorist attack (the one we all will remember for the rest of our lives) happened on US soil. If we are going to give Bush credit for "preventing" another attack (why didn't he prevent the first one is my question - but I digress), then credit needs to be given to every President before him who also "prevented" such attacks. The list of those Presidents include both Democrats and Replublicans...making neither one "better" at preventing such things. And if we want to look at "the" attack and say THAT President did the worst job of "preventing" attacks, which party would THAT President be from?
Ok, I'll shut up now.
Sorry some people were rude to you, Angie! In my book, you rock!
YOU ROCK!!! Tell those narrowminded people who think their opinion is the ONLY TRUTH in the world. That they don't know what happens somewhere else than their own backyard doesn't mean others aren't interested and envolved in what happens in the world.You go girl and spread your opinion, no matter what!
And last but not least;
Let LOVE rule and save the world!! (And not fear..!!)
I had meant to comment the other day on your post, to thank you for voicing opinions that might be unpopular, especially in what is a fairly conservative community. I agree with everything you said, but even if I didn't, I'm so glad that you shared your thoughts. Isn't that the most patriotic thing of all?
Thanks for everything you do!
I'm right there with you! I've never really been "into" politics until this year, and what a crazy ride it has been! Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for standing up for what you believe in... I, too, believe that Yes We Can! ;)
Sorry to hear about the personal attacks, you're entitled to your view and I think this election has has had the whole world watching with interest.
It's often been said that if America sneezes the rest of the world catches cold (and I mean no disrespect by that) so of course people the world over have taken an interest and have followed along.
Wow. Man - look at what happens when you stay off of the computer for a day or two! LOL!
I think your posts were right on, he** - this IS your blog and heaven knows you absolutely have the right to voice your opinion on YOUR blog. Honestly, I'm glad you followed the election with interest (including CA's prop 8). I for one try to inundate myself with as much world news as possible (and not just from basic American sources), so yes, I do have an opinion about your Chancellor, about Russia's PM, Sarkozy, etc. Maybe it's just my overwhelming sense of entitlement of growing up here in the States, but I think it's our responsibility that if we want to be citizens of the world then we must educate ourselves as much as possible about the world around us. And I'm not sure how some of these people learn, but I for one learn by entering a conversation - not just by observing.
On the politics side of thins, I just hope and pray that things can start to turn around the right way in this country and subsequently in the eyes of the world (b/c yes people it DOES matter what others think of the good ol' USofA.) I hope that Obama is strong enough to deliver on his promises to bring this country together - it's going to be a long, hard struggle, but I'm willing to sign up and give it my best- my children deserve at least that. And I felt that I started the change with my vote. Here's to hope (in every sense of the word).
While I agree that you should not be personally "attacked," I do feel that you open yourself up when you express your political opinions on a scrapbooking website. I really have no interest in your political opinions and frankly consider it an abuse of what should serve to unite so many of us around the world. Why should we be subjected to your opinions and why should we really care what you think? Kind of like finding a political agenda when I place an order from Amazon or IKEA which is not what they should be about. You have a nice scrapbooking site but that does not make you a political guru. Regardless of whether I agreed or disagreed with your political views, I think you were out of line (and you are not alone) by creating this controversy. And yes, I do think that the fact that you are European makes your opinion less relevant. Despite your ties, you are not an American citizen and not entitled to vote. I would never presume to lecture you about what is best for your country. Enjoy your opinions and share them with in personal conversations but don't degrade your website by making it a political arena.
Dear Angie: Don't let the b*st*rds get you down! You ARE entitled to an opinion, of course. It's too bad narrow-minded people don't think so. And I'm with you on the anti-gay marriage thing. My country (Canada) expanded its definition of marriage a few years ago. Guess what folks, the sun still rose the next day, and the day after, and so on.
Hi there! I just found your blog through suggested reading on google. While I don't agree with you politically, I'm sorry you got bashed like that. I didn't read through all the comments but the few I did read were uncalled for.
I wish people would realize that it's just not okay to be rude and disrespectful no matter how much you disagree with someone. Yes express you opinion but in a polite and educated way.
Thanks for finding all the digi freebies! That is awesome. I'm just getting into digi and am on a very limited budget. This is very helpful for me.
Thanks again! Kay
Mary!!!! You are embarrassing yourself to say the things you have. You haven't even got it right about this site. Angie never said she was a political guru.. or acted like one. She just expressed her happiness about the outcome of the election and her dissappointment of prop 8. She was not lecturing.. only informing us of her history and where she was coming from. Most of us appreciated that! My goodness! Also, this is not Amazon! She does not make money doing this. She does the search and share - out of kindness.
Shame on you for being so nasty!!! Shame.. shame..shame. Way to show your appreciation!!!
Ugh.. some ppl should not be allowed on the net!
Shaking my head here that you can be so rude!
You truly need to re-read what you wrote and then think about the impression you are making. Let me tell you now.. it's NOT a good one.
Last time I checked Mary.. this is her own personal blog. If you don't like it... don't come to it.
I had read some of the nasty comments before I commented the other day, and I'm very sad that people had to get so personal.
I'm in complete agreement with you and voiced that before. No matter what your opinion, people do NOT need to get nasty.
I've had a very hard time here living in a very conservative area of California. I have my Obama sticker on my van, and I have yet had anyone say anything mean to me, but I will say I've been shunned, and some just won't discuss it with me. I've had to bite my tongue for the first time in my life!!
Like Cleo Fitzgerald said "YOU GO GIRL"
Hugs
Debra
Well, I've been missing out on your blog because I've been too lazy to copy my feeds to my laptop but I'm shocked to come back and learn that visitors to your blog - a place where you do so much for the community - would feel justified in making personal attacks because you stated your opinion. I thank you for all you do and if you feel you need to let off a little steam once in a while, I'm perfectly willing to "listen." It's your blog and I'm just a guest.
I just want to add that until you start charging for the wonderful service you provide, NO ONE has the right to tell you you're out of line here in your own space. Mary, and those like her, can just pound sand.
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